Q&A With Heidi Zak

Heidi Zak (left) and Ra'el Cohen, founders of ThirdLove. Continuing her crusade against Razek, Zak further describes Victoria's Secret's ignorance, noting how obviously they market towards men selling a male fantasy to women” and the complete disregard for the reality we live in: the reality where women go to work, breastfeed their children, play sports, care for ailing parents, and serve their country” and aren't limited by archaic ideas of femininity.
Around the same time, Kira told a consultant at the company, a leadership coach who worked closely with Spector, that she wanted to meet with the executive: Almost verbatim she said ‘Dave is a deeply insecure man, make sure you pat his ego throughout your conversation and that you don't surprise him.



CMO Ed Razek said in the interview that he didn't think the company's annual fashion show should feature "transsexuals" because "the show is a fantasy." He also said that the brand would not be adding larger sizes to its assortment and that it had no plans to feature plus-size models in its runway show.
Ahead of the annual VS Fashion Show, model Robyn Lawley started a petition encouraging a boycott of the show due to its lack of size diversity, according to Teen Vogue ; she partnered with ThirdLove, who donated a bra to the Support the Girls organization for every Instagram post hashtagged #weareallangels.

ThirdLove, whose advertisements you've probably heard on whatever podcasts you listen to, has built a brand out of supplying an impressive number of sizes and colors of bras for women of varied body types—an obvious counterpoint to the homogeneous glamazon” look championed by Victoria's Secret—and ensuring they actually fit.
From marketing to product development, data has allowed ThirdLove to grow faster than any other online bra and underwear startup. The chief marketing officer of Victoria's Secret's parent company had recently made controversial comments about transgender models during an interview with Vogue.

Passionate about making great-fitting, comfortable and beautiful bras for all women. Spector said the company uses every digital channel they can to reach their customers, as well as some more traditional ad tactics like direct mail, TV, Heidi Zak radio and billboards. The couple told the employees, many clad in their work uniform” — a grey t-shirt printed with ThirdLove — that the tremendous growth was because of their great service to customers of the online-only business.

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